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quote Weta:
"And so, finally, it is time... time to banish our fears ... time to conquer a model maker's Mount Everest. It is time for... Barad-dûr - Fortress of Sauron.
So join us, over the next few months, as Weta Workshop's David Tremont explains, step by step "his scariest challenge yet".
A year in the making .... the union between The Two Towers is complete."
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- wargrider
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Barad-dûr - Fortress of Sauron sera dévoilé au comic con avec les premiers produits du Hobbit
Building Barad-dûr - Fortress of Sauron
David Tremont - Senior Model Maker - has documented the long journey to Barad-dûr - Fortress of Sauron. Well, at least the long journey to making the collectible environment
Here's a snippet from Dave's writings on Barad-dûr:
"We have known that we would be doing Barad-dur for some time and has been the one that I have given a mental ‘gulp!’ for. If this series of environments continues to be successful our journey will take us to Barad-dur. It has always been there, next on the Shadow and Flame poll.... after Orthanc.... and has been a constant - how will I do this? I am my worst enemy, as in I am full of doubt about what I can do... then I just get on with it and do it.... ‘go figure’. The planning for this has been in the works for a while and has to go through the internal process of ‘can we do it’, ‘would it sell’, ‘how much is it going to cost and can we afford it’, ‘would the fans buy it (bless their little cotton socks)’, ‘can it be manufactured’... there are lots of ?????’s to consider before starting any project of this complexity. Next is the process of finding the studio miniature, getting internal permissions and sketching concepts and sizes for approvals from our friends at Warner Bros. Daniel Falconer was involved from the start and collected together images so we could co-figure out how big, how it is to be presented etc.
This is a special piece and should be bold, should be a show stopper and bigger than Orthanc but not so big that we price ourselves out of the market.... quite a gamble for such a difficult and costly model to build but we are very passionate about this particular collectible. I did a quick image for Tim to send off to Warner Bros., to get their approvals. Because of the massive amounts of detail, it was going to be very difficult to do it any justice on a very small collectible and was part of the reason to go larger. Tim was also concerned with the initial comments coming from me as to the complexity and time / cost that can be expected with this piece but was also very excited, as with the rest of us, about being able to do this one. Also, as with the all of us, looking at the images was a great concern about how complicated it is. We are embarking on a long journey. There was no way it could be to scale with Orthanc as it would make it several metres tall... good for some.
In the meantime Daniel had gathered more reference images of the miniature that I printed out large to give me a better look at the detail and complexity. I pored over these to try and get my head around it to work out a budget but the biggest part was trying to understand the shapes and details... it is very complex and impossible to understand from the pictures but I had to start somewhere and get an idea of time and a budget. This has to be perfect, I was not going to settle for anything less and to achieve that level will make this task even more difficult but I was determined it will happen..... I was very concerned because the first look at the images was... tricky.... this is going to be my biggest challenge yet....
.... OK... I was scared shitless.....
.... very scary and very exciting at the same time and as much as I want to build it as a model making exercise, I have to be responsible and consider the use of rapid prototype printing some, or all, of the model.
Going through the process of building the digital model (from the films digital version) was going to take a long time by itself. The digital Barad-dur is the skin only and is a hollow model; we only see the surface so it does not have to be solid. To do a print would require re-building the digital model to make it solid (watertight) and this takes a long time on something this detailed. Once we had an idea of how small the pieces were going to be, it was clear that artefacting, on the prints, was going to be impossible to clean up while retaining the tiny detail.... I would be better off building it.
Yah!... I’m going to build it...
Oh!.... grief, I’m going to build it.
watertight) and this takes a long time on something this detailed. Once we had an idea of how small the pieces were going to be, it was clear that artefacting, on the prints, was going to be impossible to clean up while retaining the tiny detail.... I would be better off building it.
Yah!... I’m going to build it...
Oh!.... grief, I’m going to build it.
One of the first things noticed was the amount of repeated detail, it is made up from many cast panels that get used several times each so in effect only half the model has to be built and then cast to make the rest.... this makes it a little more attainable. Looking at the image of the complete model is very daunting and can hinder making a start and, at this point, the start is working out how to, cost and time so it is focus on the smaller details, one at a time and build up a mental image from there. The small details have to be built and that is the main cost... how it all hangs together will have to come latter and will become more clear as I get into it.
Then, one day, Tim came in with the news that everything has fallen into place and we have permission to carry on and build the collectible. Tim has a fantastic relationship with Warner Bros making the approvals and communication process very easy. I hope that they are as excited about this piece as we are.
So in early July 2011 the process begins."
Barad-dûr - Fortress of Sauron sera dévoilé au comic con avec les premiers produits du Hobbit
Only 1 month to go until Comic Con!
It's going to be a very special display this year with the unveiling of our first pieces from The Hobbit: An Unexpected Journey and the first full sighting of Barad-dûr - Fortress of Sauron
Building Barad-dûr - Fortress of Sauron
David Tremont - Senior Model Maker - has documented the long journey to Barad-dûr - Fortress of Sauron. Well, at least the long journey to making the collectible environment
Here's a snippet from Dave's writings on Barad-dûr:
"We have known that we would be doing Barad-dur for some time and has been the one that I have given a mental ‘gulp!’ for. If this series of environments continues to be successful our journey will take us to Barad-dur. It has always been there, next on the Shadow and Flame poll.... after Orthanc.... and has been a constant - how will I do this? I am my worst enemy, as in I am full of doubt about what I can do... then I just get on with it and do it.... ‘go figure’. The planning for this has been in the works for a while and has to go through the internal process of ‘can we do it’, ‘would it sell’, ‘how much is it going to cost and can we afford it’, ‘would the fans buy it (bless their little cotton socks)’, ‘can it be manufactured’... there are lots of ?????’s to consider before starting any project of this complexity. Next is the process of finding the studio miniature, getting internal permissions and sketching concepts and sizes for approvals from our friends at Warner Bros. Daniel Falconer was involved from the start and collected together images so we could co-figure out how big, how it is to be presented etc.
This is a special piece and should be bold, should be a show stopper and bigger than Orthanc but not so big that we price ourselves out of the market.... quite a gamble for such a difficult and costly model to build but we are very passionate about this particular collectible. I did a quick image for Tim to send off to Warner Bros., to get their approvals. Because of the massive amounts of detail, it was going to be very difficult to do it any justice on a very small collectible and was part of the reason to go larger. Tim was also concerned with the initial comments coming from me as to the complexity and time / cost that can be expected with this piece but was also very excited, as with the rest of us, about being able to do this one. Also, as with the all of us, looking at the images was a great concern about how complicated it is. We are embarking on a long journey. There was no way it could be to scale with Orthanc as it would make it several metres tall... good for some.
In the meantime Daniel had gathered more reference images of the miniature that I printed out large to give me a better look at the detail and complexity. I pored over these to try and get my head around it to work out a budget but the biggest part was trying to understand the shapes and details... it is very complex and impossible to understand from the pictures but I had to start somewhere and get an idea of time and a budget. This has to be perfect, I was not going to settle for anything less and to achieve that level will make this task even more difficult but I was determined it will happen..... I was very concerned because the first look at the images was... tricky.... this is going to be my biggest challenge yet....
.... OK... I was scared shitless.....
.... very scary and very exciting at the same time and as much as I want to build it as a model making exercise, I have to be responsible and consider the use of rapid prototype printing some, or all, of the model.
Going through the process of building the digital model (from the films digital version) was going to take a long time by itself. The digital Barad-dur is the skin only and is a hollow model; we only see the surface so it does not have to be solid. To do a print would require re-building the digital model to make it solid (watertight) and this takes a long time on something this detailed. Once we had an idea of how small the pieces were going to be, it was clear that artefacting, on the prints, was going to be impossible to clean up while retaining the tiny detail.... I would be better off building it.
Yah!... I’m going to build it...
Oh!.... grief, I’m going to build it.
watertight) and this takes a long time on something this detailed. Once we had an idea of how small the pieces were going to be, it was clear that artefacting, on the prints, was going to be impossible to clean up while retaining the tiny detail.... I would be better off building it.
Yah!... I’m going to build it...
Oh!.... grief, I’m going to build it.
One of the first things noticed was the amount of repeated detail, it is made up from many cast panels that get used several times each so in effect only half the model has to be built and then cast to make the rest.... this makes it a little more attainable. Looking at the image of the complete model is very daunting and can hinder making a start and, at this point, the start is working out how to, cost and time so it is focus on the smaller details, one at a time and build up a mental image from there. The small details have to be built and that is the main cost... how it all hangs together will have to come latter and will become more clear as I get into it.
Then, one day, Tim came in with the news that everything has fallen into place and we have permission to carry on and build the collectible. Tim has a fantastic relationship with Warner Bros making the approvals and communication process very easy. I hope that they are as excited about this piece as we are.
So in early July 2011 the process begins."
- Sarlacc
- Admin Exhibitionniste | Co-Fondateur
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- Enregistré le : 08 février 2010, 00:01
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Raz mais vivement! Ça va être énorme, éteint être plus grand que le nouveau Orthanc!
- nucleoblast
- Schizophrène
- Messages : 1585
- Enregistré le : 07 septembre 2011, 16:18
L'union des deux tours!!!Très excitant cette nouvelle production! ...je dois recevoir Orthanc cette semaine...
- Spitfire
- Dérangé
- Messages : 315
- Enregistré le : 16 juin 2012, 14:36
Weta passe à la vitesse supérieure !
Barad-dûr - Fortress of Sauron will be unveiled for the first time at Weta's booth #3513B at San Diego Comic Con on 11 July
On va donc découvrir la pièce entière d'ici quelques jours, mais on peu déjà voir quelques teasers !
ca s'annonce grandiose, dans tous les sens du terme !
Barad-dûr - Fortress of Sauron will be unveiled for the first time at Weta's booth #3513B at San Diego Comic Con on 11 July
On va donc découvrir la pièce entière d'ici quelques jours, mais on peu déjà voir quelques teasers !
ca s'annonce grandiose, dans tous les sens du terme !
- Sarlacc
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Magnifque putain! Ca c'est la grande grande classe!
L'effet lave est déjà bien cool en plus!
L'effet lave est déjà bien cool en plus!
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- Schizophrène
- Messages : 1206
- Enregistré le : 10 février 2010, 22:35
Ca laisse promettre du tout bon c'est clair pressé de voir l'ensemble
- nucleoblast
- Schizophrène
- Messages : 1585
- Enregistré le : 07 septembre 2011, 16:18
très prometteur l'environnement... cela va faire du tout beau à coté d'Orthanc...
- legollum74
- Schizophrène
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- Enregistré le : 13 février 2010, 19:01
j'espère un 300 E
- Sarlacc
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Je surkiffe!
- Spitfire
- Dérangé
- Messages : 315
- Enregistré le : 16 juin 2012, 14:36
Pas mal du tout. En revanche, j'émet une petite réserve sur la découpe nette noir sur le devant. C'est une habitude pour Weta, mais là c'est vraiment un peu trop flagrant je trouve. A voir avec d'autres photos.
Autre chose, faut qu'ils se calment un peu sur la taille, parce que le nouveau Orthanc parait tout petit à coté, alors que c'est déjà pas simple à caser ... Entre celui ci, Orthanc et Rivendell, les environnements sont de plus en plus grand ...
Autre chose, faut qu'ils se calment un peu sur la taille, parce que le nouveau Orthanc parait tout petit à coté, alors que c'est déjà pas simple à caser ... Entre celui ci, Orthanc et Rivendell, les environnements sont de plus en plus grand ...
- jackelrhum
- Maniaque
- Messages : 2621
- Enregistré le : 14 février 2010, 00:07
La claque, purée la taille !
Bon par contre pour le prix je dirais minimum 600 $.
Bon par contre pour le prix je dirais minimum 600 $.
- Willow
- Maniaque
- Messages : 3406
- Enregistré le : 13 août 2010, 11:28
t'as pas l'impression qu'ici il est surélévé par rapport à OrthancSpitfire a écrit :Autre chose, faut qu'ils se calment un peu sur la taille, parce que le nouveau Orthanc parait tout petit à coté, alors que c'est déjà pas simple à caser ... Entre celui ci, Orthanc et Rivendell, les environnements sont de plus en plus grand ...
- jackelrhum
- Maniaque
- Messages : 2621
- Enregistré le : 14 février 2010, 00:07
Je crois que t'as raison, il y a de l'espace dessous.
- Spitfire
- Dérangé
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- Enregistré le : 16 juin 2012, 14:36
Barad dur a l'air bien surélevé et Orthanc relativement éloigné mais tout de même il me semble avoir lu sur le forum Shadow and Flame que ce Barad Dur mettrait quelques centimètres dans les dents du nouveau Orthanc ...Willow a écrit :t'as pas l'impression qu'ici il est surélévé par rapport à OrthancSpitfire a écrit :Autre chose, faut qu'ils se calment un peu sur la taille, parce que le nouveau Orthanc parait tout petit à coté, alors que c'est déjà pas simple à caser ... Entre celui ci, Orthanc et Rivendell, les environnements sont de plus en plus grand ...
Le prix va douiller je pense J'espère que j'ai quelques Weta points qui sont cachés dans mon compte !!
Sinon la réalisation est quand même magnifique.
- Spitfire
- Dérangé
- Messages : 315
- Enregistré le : 16 juin 2012, 14:36
Ouep donc plus de 10 cm ... de plus !wargrider a écrit :Il fait exactement 55 cm de haut, Orthanc fait 43 cm...
pour le prix je pense pas si cher, peut être plutôt comme Rivendell qui massif!
Je pense vers les 400$
Pour le prix, j'espere secretement quelque chose comme Orthanc, mais a mon avis, ca sera entre Rivendell et Orthanc
- Aleksander
- Suisse dans le coeur, mais français dans l'âme... Dommage...
- Messages : 1247
- Enregistré le : 11 février 2010, 02:50
Vraiment beau oui ! Après ça pourrait être pas mal que l'oeil soit avec la version exclusive !
- jackelrhum
- Maniaque
- Messages : 2621
- Enregistré le : 14 février 2010, 00:07
Dommage pour l’œil mais c'est quand même une énorme tuerie.